Liverpool

[The_Milkman]

While Agger has been busy doing rehabilitation work at Melwood his agent has been spotted holding talks with representatives of AC Milan in Italy.

Per Steffersen was pictured having a lunch meeting with Milan’s sporting director Ariedo Braida and agent Rino Foschi at Giannino, a restaurant which is regularly used by officials of the Serie A club and which consistently attracts the attentions of paparazzi photographers.

With Agger having entered the final 18-months of his current Liverpool deal and no sign on progress being made on contract talks there will inevitably be concern that his agent has held a meeting with one of Liverpool’s European rivals.

Agger has consistently made it clear that he sees his future only at Anfield and sources in Denmark have indicated to the ECHO that the latest development is likely to amount to little more than posturing on Steffersen’s behalf.

But Benitez is well aware that Agger would become a hot property should Liverpool fail to agree a deal with the stylish defender and is keen to get him tied to a new long term contract as soon as possible.

Phjao...in naš pametnjakovič Parry...jeboga da ne more enga kosa papirja skp spravt...

Jah no... ga bomo že prebolel če dajo ene 20mio pa zraven še Kakaja

[scouse proud]

Mah škoda je fanta tako al tako, velik potencial za naprej, pa tudi že zdaj kaže dobre predstave.

Pa sej ne bo šel, je premlad za društvo upokojencev

[The_Milkman]

Ma kaki carji...komaj so se umirile zgodbe o Đevadu in popivanju in Benitezovi tiskovki...si spet zakuhamo.....Rafa zavrnu novo pogodbo.....

Super...namesto da bi imeli mir in se pripravljal na tekme zdej to sranje...


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[tench]

Ma kaki carji...komaj so se umirile zgodbe o Đevadu in popivanju in Benitezovi tiskovki...si spet zakuhamo.....Rafa zavrnu novo pogodbo.....

Super...namesto da bi imeli mir in se pripravljal na tekme zdej to sranje...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9M0nePM6e ... re=related

[Matevž]

S takšnimi potezami je vse bližje prestopu k Realu poleti, vsaj po mojem mnenju, verjetno bo tudi marsikaj odvisno, kako se letošnja sezona razpletla.

[tench]

Ožeeeeeežiiiiiiii........

Also sprach Zaratustra!

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldow ... 6-1416.htm


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnmCu3U09w

[scouse proud]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldow ... 6-1351.htm

ole

[The_Milkman]

fucking love the lad....

hudo branje

nananananananananananananananan


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... l?ITO=1490

City is not the right team for
Kaka. Imagine 10 years after
you stop playing, you are not
in any picture, you have no
medals, no trophies; it is like
you played for nothing'

__________


tale se ga je fajn zapušil.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 833429.stm

[The_Milkman]

Eno kul razmišljanje...

I've tried to stay out of this thread as much as I can as I didn't want to have to keep responding to some of the drivel that seems to creeping into every other post since Rafa's press conference last week. It's not that easy when you see things repeated 30 seconds after SSN have said it and another myth is perpetuated ad infinitum and ad nauseum.
So I'm going to give an honest opinion based on fact. People can take it or leave it but those that know will understand. Those that want to just use any platform of perceived negativity to have a crack at Benitez will continue to do so because its been festering in their heads for too long to change. Those that only have an opinion dependant on what they see in the media will only change their opinion when they are told what it is by the same.

I've worked with Rick Parry and as you say Alan there is far more to this man than just being an accountant. His commitment to Liverpool F.C is undoubted and his workload would make most of us buckle after a week.
The job he inherited from Peter Robinson was one of if not THE biggest challenge to anyones abilities in recent football history.
The lack of foresight from his illustrious predecessors over many years has probably got more to do with our current plight than people care to see. Simply because it's easier to blame the 'clown' than anyone else. There is no smoke without fire though and therein lies part of the story.
Behind the scenes, he has worked tirelessly to haul our club back to where we once were. Both in terms of financial muscle and administrative excellence.
His ability to do this has been questioned many times within the club and some of the methods employed have actually left us further behind and not even close to be drawing level with our competitors.
Part of the blame for this has been the remnants of Liverpools administrative past. How things had to be done 'The Liverpool Way', while still dragging the club into the modern day. Liverpool as a footballing business model would be the team equivalent of the 2nd Division when Parry arrived while our main competitors were swanning around The Champions League, such was the ground we had to make up.

The problem with Parry is that his role and responsibilities have changed dramatically at the same time as we tried and failed to play catch up. So no sooner did we look as though we were getting there,then he was loaded with further responsibilities. This created difficulties, compounded by the changes in the managerial structure of the club and the rapid responses needed in the modern game. He was in effect doing 3 jobs.
One he was qualified for as an accountant. One he had experience of, effectively, as a senior administrator with the Premier League and one he was never going to manage effectively alongside the other two. That was as C.E.O of Liverpool F.C.

How a club like Liverpool F.C could be the only one who didn't employ a marketting executive until Ayres was appointed is testament to the reliance of keeping things done a certain way so as not to rock the boat. They didn't learn by past mistakes. See the farcical 'joint manager' roles of Evans & Houllier as further evidence of that type of reasoning.

The job was too big for Parry but nobody within the club was prepared to change the situation. Instead more responsibility and therefore more power was given to Parry.

Once Benitez arrived at the club, things started to change almost immediately.
Benitez realised that from a footballing aspect the club was not geared up to the needs of the modern game and certainly not to the needs of Liverpool F.C. Some of the things Benitez was informed were in place when he was offered the managers position were clouded in half truths. Many of those things were paramount to Benitez in his decision to come to the club. They represented many of the things he saw as being vital for the club's long and short term future.

Benitez came to the club believing there was a platform for him to put his ideas in place and take the club to where they told him they wanted to be. The reality of what he found was so far removed from the initial promises. Initially this was put down to clashes of personality, which in some cases it was. However Benitez found himself running down blind alleys at almost every turn.He was continually meeting Parry down there. The main stumbling blocks being cash, the buying and selling of players and the youth structure. All things that a footballing man needed to run smoothly and effectively. Benitez was renowned for being one of the widely respected youth coaches during his time in Spain and this was a major part of his CV. Yet he was told to keep his nose out at Liverpool. The fragmentation of the senior and junior set ups at the club was beyond his comprehension. As was the fact that he, as manager was being prevented from having any effective input in to it's running or effectiveness.
Benitez decided to restructure those areas he was 'allowed' to and that started some major problems.
He effectively bypassed the youth system and brought his own players in, to train with the senior squad. Once Steve Heighway left,many of the successful youth team were promoted to the reserves and therefore came under his overall control.

He still didn't have any real input into the youth set up which was being overseen and run by Rick Parry. Parry's reluctance to sanction or back the overhaul of the youth system has been a major problem for Benitez. A none footballing man effectively preventing a football man from doing what he was brought in to do in the first place.
It is well known within the club that Benitez wants to develop our own players. He is extremely passionate about it, yet feels this won't happen quickly enough under the present structure.Even though that long term the club will benefit both financially and in terms of having a local heart to the club. Something that he spoke of only today.

On top of all of this is the farcical situation regarding protracted transfers we are all aware of. This all came to a head, just before the Gerrard fiasco made the headlines. Parry's reticence to get the Gerrard's contract sorted out was seen within the club and by Rafa in particular as an indication of how much power Parry thought he had. This was a further indication of his lack of footballing mentality. He was actually prompted to get this sorted from within the club but still dragged his heels.This caused major problems internally and is the catalyst for many of today's difficulties. The almost catastrophic outcome was seen as a watershed. It wasn't!

On top of that Benitez had the unfortunate misfortune of having to go through Parry for every transfer.
I'm not going into who they were, but certain players at home and abroad had approached Liverpool F.C and had agreed to come after speaking with Benitez only for the deal to fall through after Parry became involved. Some were high profile, some were not. The biggest deals having been well documented. Some equally as big which have not been.were already agreed with players without massive wage demands or contract terms only to fall away yet again. This caused severe professional embarrassment for Benitez and restricted the progress of the team.

Once the takeover came about and the club was restructured once again, Benitez was once again made promises regarding transfers.Certain operating procedures were put into place by Hicks & Gillette to try and smooth things along. Without going into too much detail about what they were here, they failed when the H & G relationship started to wobble. The operating procedures fell by the wayside, which Benitez wasn't happy about as they appeared to be working. Once H & G lost the day to day 'hands on ' contact with club matters,apart from Ayres 'input', things reverted to type and Parry just went about things The Parry Way.

As I said initially, Parry works tirelessly for the club. However he is not the man for the job. Certainly not working with Benitez, or any other forward thinking manager, who knows the buck stops with him under the current structure.
As the public face of Liverpool Football Club, you couldn't meet a more insipid, grey, uninspiring man. He is the archetypal accountant, who's lack of personality and charisma is exactly what you would imagine it to be by his public image.

[tench]

Mnja...ništa novo na zapadu....Zadnji odstavek says it all....Računovodja par excellence and a shitty CEO....Dejstvo....

[tench]

Malo za ogrevanje....Kje so časi....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-rcXdZpdJ ... re=related

[The_Milkman]

whaaaaaa derbii komaj čakam.....pa vbistvu isto kot če bi igrali proti Zanzibarju......po 9tih dneh od zadnje tekme je človeku skoraj vseeno...važno da se igra

Ker pa je derbi zadnjih par sezon vse prej kot prijateljski......naj malce začinom...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB2YPqvSUj0

ONE CITY ONE CLUB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFmOJnN126k

The citys all ours , fuck off to kirkby, the city's all ours

[scouse proud]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tusQrR_80ZM

Se nadejam 4. zaporednega gola proti bittersom

In upam da se bo igralo 4-4-2 kot na Goodisonu.

[scouse proud]

Ma u ku*** use skupi.

Igra v prvem polčasu p o r a z n a. Oz. bolje rečeno sklenjenost le-te. Pol žog je letelo v noge Bittersov, poleg tega pa se je preveč igralo na visoke dolge podaje, skoke pa so skoraj vse dobili Bittersi. Riera ni bil na svojem nivoju, prav tako Xabi. Kuyt spet tekal okoli kot brezglava kokoš in naredil nič. Še s Carragherjem na poziciji desnega beka desne strani praktično nismo imeli. Torresova vratnica se mi je v tistem momentu zdela napoved boljših časov, ampak se mi zdaj konkretno kolca po njej. Drugi polčas nekoliko bolje, ampak še vedno ne na nivoju. Gerrard zopet rešitelj, napad odrezan od sveta še bolj kot v prvem polčasu, nekaj se je poskušalo a ni bil to tisti Liverpool, ki je nadigral Bolton in Novigrad. Iz kotov standardno neučinkoviti. Glede menjav ne bom niti pisal več. Kombinacija v pi*di menjav + katastrofalnega branjenja v kazenskem (ob golu je Sami imel na grbi Lescotta in Cahilla) nas je spet koštala vseh pik. Pa sem že mislil, da je Rafa po Tottenhamu spoznal, da ne gre braniti prednosti 1 gola, ampak poskušati dati še enega. In čeprav sem vedno Beniteza podpiral, mi zadnje čase švigajo po glavi drugačne misli.

Razočaranje popolno. Možnost za revanšo je že v nedeljo, toda ta tekma je bila mnogo pomembnejša kot tista. Remi, ampak ta remi boli. Kot poraz. In danes nismo 1 točke dobili, temveč 2 izgubili. In Fergie se zdaj lepo vsem smeje v fris. Pa jebe*ti mind games.

V nedeljo pa bo treba zmagati. In to bo še težje glede na visoko samozavest pri Bittersih trenutno. Ker če bo šlo še tako naprej, bo treba sezono res reševati v kakem FA pokalu. Realno gledano je ManU velik favorit na zaostali tekmi proti Fulhamu. In potencialno to znaša 3 točke prednosti pred LFC. Tako bo treba za preskok na vrh moliti za kak remi s Fulhamom ter na OT iti na zmago. Ter ob tem še vse preostale tekme zmagati. Seveda jih ManU ne bo (vseh tekem zmagal namreč), ampak s tako igro jih tudi LFC ne bo. In če se mi stanje po remiju s Stoke-om ni zdelo še tako zaskrbljujoče, danes 'alarm bells are ringing.'

V upanju na boljše čase,
YNWA


P.S.: 1. Keane s še eno porazno tekmo. Ne morem verjet, da je toliko golov zabil pri Tottenhamu.
2. Malo se moram izkašljat še nad sodnika, 2 penala bi komot piskal, pa... god knows.

[tench]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jbClTitxAGc